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Le Mans Start by DaveAyerstDavies Le Mans Start by DaveAyerstDavies
The Le Mans 24 for sportscars now has a 'rolling' start, but the motorcycle 24 hours still has a traditional Le Mans start where the riders line up on the opposite side of the track and run to thier machines at the drop of the 'Tricolor'.
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zaphod-209 Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2012
I love this shot!
DonDeCerveza Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2012
Love to see some traditions carried on.
Now we just need MotoGP to return to the GP dead engine push start.
DaveAyerstDavies Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2012
Should we also go back to drawing lots for grid positions? :-) It would make for some spectacular racing.

Seriously though, I do think sometimes it would not hurt to keep to tradition. At least at the Le Mans 24 hours 'auto' these days they line the cars up in the old fashioned way before doing the warm up lap.
DonDeCerveza Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2012
I'm a US bike guy.
The AMA even tried the NASCAR pace car start a few times to write rules to keep the Buell competitive. It had a racing class written around it (Formula Xtreme), which it rarely finished, then HD killed the entire product. But fortunately, the flat track twin rules which had been written around the HD XR-750 (which hasn't been manufactured in 20 years) were opened up to permit more even competition. Where flat track is dying in the US, the UK has had a great resurgence in "run what you brung" beach oval racing.

One of the truest starts is still motocross. One drop gate with 30 bikes stuffing into a 6m wide first turn.

Bike endurance racing can afford to keep the tradition, since a 10 second starting advantage tends to mean nothing, even in a 4 hour amateur endurance race. And riders can just jump on and go.

Car racing has so much safety equipment that you can't just jump into the old lapbelted front engine roadster and take off. I'm amazed that endurance cars can even make driver changes.

I wouldn't be surprised of all motorcycle road racing having some fall out from the Simoncelli crash.

Great portfolio
DaveAyerstDavies Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2012
Driver changes in endurance events are only possible as a result of pit regulations. At Le Mans and in ALMS, the fuelling rate is restricted such that it takes 40 seconds or so to top up. In addition, the number of 'over the wall' pit crew is limited and they can't change rubber and fuel at the same time (no touching the car when the fuel hose is in). All that means the 30 second or so driver change can be done safely and without cutting corners and leaving the pits with belts undone or doors flapping, a common sight up to the early 1980s.

On the subject of Simoncelli, you are right there will be some 'fall out' from that tragedy, but bike racing is inherently more hazardous than auto racing, and that is part of its appeal. It attracts a very special kind of competitor. No matter what safely gear a rider wears, he is out there skimming the surface of the track with no safety cage around him. Almost whatever measures you take, there will be fatal accidents now and then. Even in open wheel car formulae it can happen, just take Dan Wheldon's fatal accident last year.

Racing is dangerous. If it was completely safe then we might as well just play video games instead. In a competition that has an element of danger, that risk has to be controlled, but to remove hazards completely would emasculate the sport. My view is that current drivers/riders should always be the ultimate reference as to what is an acceptable level of risk, not old guys in blazers at the FIA/FIM
DonDeCerveza Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2012
The pit rules make a lot of sense. Fans complain about the pit rules, but all teams have to deal with it, so it is doesn't penalize anyone.

Bike racing is different. As I tell my sports car friends, slide a miata around a corner at 70mph then get on a bike and drag your knee around the corner at 70 mph and tell me when you felt the rush.

I'm American and I have to watch the entire NASCAR debacle. A car slides a little in the corner and they throw a yellow flag and send out a pace car. It is the most paranoid and non competitive racing known to man.

I do like car endurance racing, and Aussie V8s are what American stock car used to be.
Probably my greatest appreciation is racing where safety is not immediately available, Baja and Dakar.

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sultanih Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2011
Great one . . . this, in my opinion is a lovely photo . . . great work.
Gemaskerde-Muchacho Featured By Owner Sep 11, 2010  Hobbyist Photographer
Love the Dutch flag haha
Great shot this is!
b0t4qkzX Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2009
very lucky...nice timing...
redsnuffle Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2009
This picture brought a little giggle out of me. It's genius :D Definitely a fave :)
adypetrisor Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2009  Professional Photographer
Great shot ! Congratulations !!!!!! :clap:
zgradis Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2008  Hobbyist Photographer
Simply awesome!
FuckOffffff Featured By Owner May 20, 2007  Hobbyist Photographer
Ha - nice one! Not many sports these days where this sort of tradition is still present, (what with safety harnesses/belts etc),... good to see it captured so well :)
HFMp Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2007  Professional Photographer
wow, amazing great shot! ^_^
BunkerProd Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2007  Hobbyist Photographer
hey this one is even greater!
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